No, neither one of you did what I asked, and it was simple. I asked for both before and after. Don't you know that there is a worldwide trend of decreasing murder rates? The US rate had also been trending downwards over the same proof.
Jesus Christ guys. Its only the most basic standard of honest inquiry im asking of you. You don't just look at the number of murders since a date. You have to know if it was already trending downwards before??????
Are either of you even intellectually curious about this point?