Author: Astanyx <[email protected]>     Reply to Message
Date: 1/31/2016 8:55:37 PM
Subject: RE: Making a Murderer (spoils)

How much did you pay attention to the documentary?

The keys weren't laid out on the ground, they were 'behind the nightstand' and the picture was taken because thats how they 'fell onto the floor' when it was moved which was on the 8th search, very fishy. I would be more curious about why there was only Avery DNA on the keys and none of the Car's owners who presumably handled the key every day that they owned it vs Avery likely handling it a few times if he did it....

The defence had called an expert who said the barrel would have required a substantial amount of work to have burnt hot enough to dispose of the body and it must have been somewhere else. Someone would have noticed Avery manning a barrel for the better part of a day you'd think. This isn't even taking into account the prosecution not addressing why there was a 3rd burn site away from Avery property where bones were found.

This is an excerpt from his lawyer about 2 weeks ago

'Would the barrel have been able to create that amount of heat? Was that something that was discussed?
There was some talk about that, not much about the burn barrel itself. The state really just tried to ignore that. One of the things that I looked into was [the idea that] maybe, if she had been dismembered, perhaps the bones in the barrel were just her arm, or a leg, or something that had been cut off separately, and burned in the barrel. But the fragments that were found in the barrel came from all over the body. They had a diagram of the skeleton. They came from the shoulder, the toe, the leg, the arm — it was a complete mix. It was more consistent with what we thought had happened, which is that the body was burned elsewhere, scooped up into this barrel, dumped on Avery's property, most of it, but then some remained in the muck — sort of just a mix of bone.

In terms of degree of heat, again, you would need a very long, sustained degree of heat and burn barrels don't generate that kind of heat. And someone would have to be constantly stoking it, and turning things over, and refueling, refueling, refueling.

So the bones were a very important part of the case that we thought pointed towards, at a minimum, reasonable doubt and that's something that didn't get a huge amount of coverage in the documentary'

I am not sure why you think the bullet couldn't have been planted, it was found 6 months after the initial searches by a detective who should never have been there much like the key after a few attempts, curious how nobody finds these things after a half dozen searches but the people who aren't supposed to be there because of a conflict of interest. Also her DNA and this bullet is in the garage but not another single shred of her DNA anywhere? no evidence of it having been cleaned because his DNA was all over?

'The cops from Manituwok (who shouldn't have been involved in the first place) knew that Avery was a shady dude and that he had a shit ton of new money from the lawsuit and figured that he would hire some high priced lawyers'

Avery had NO money when they convicted him. The documentary was quite clear that after he went to jail he settled his case for $400,000 so he could even afford to hire lawyers.
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