Yeah, I will admit the image quality. My father's radeon has superb color and quality. However, something to note about 3DMark and the ATI, I'm sure one of the tests fail and/or you get graphical annomalies.
For the price, ATI is a good card. However, if you are a gamer who plays all sorts of games, they aren't worth the trouble. Their drivers suck (especially for XP) and due to their "tiling architecture", they have compatibility problems with everything that isn't mainstream (q3a, 3dmark, etc). Isn't it ironic how the 8500 seems to do well on everything that people use to actually do benchmarks, but if you pull a game out of a hat, they absolutely suck on it, or it doesn't work, or it has glitches? Coincidence? Hardly.
:RR: Tonester